Coral Sand dunes NEWBIE Questions!

phx450 · Post by **phx450** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:38 pm

Over the summer here in Az its to hot for Glamis. I need a bunch of info.

Directions from phoenix

Jetting?

Weather

Where to camp? How much? Do you reserve spots?

Rules? flags, closed areas etc.

Is it any good riding? Too small, To rocky? Etc.

ANy info would be great!

Rick Bowen · Post by **Rick Bowen** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:14 pm

Directions: click here

Weather: click here

State Park WEB Site: click here

Can't help you with Jetting.... I have Fuel Injection.

It is at 6000ft

[edited by Woodglue 01/05/07 @ 2:43p - links shortened]

Crowdog · Post by **Crowdog** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:30 pm

Coral Pink Dune Guide

BakerKlan · Post by **BakerKlan** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:42 pm

phx450 wrote:Over the summer here in Az its to hot for Glamis. I need a bunch of info.

Directions from phoenix

Jetting?

Weather

Where to camp? How much? Do you reserve spots?

Rules? flags, closed areas etc.

Is it any good riding? Too small, To rocky? Etc.

ANy info would be great!

Took the family there for the first time 2 summers ago, beautiful place!

We camped in the State Park there but if we had to do it over again we would have stayed in the clearing North of the park. No fees, primitive camping. Don't get me wrong, the sites within the park were nice just a bit on the small side.

Riding was very interesting, there is about 10 acres (don't quote me on this) of pristine Coral Pink colored sand dunes with Hills rising to about 40' max but the sand itself was very very fine and soft that even with paddles some areas were hard to navigate. Plenty of trail riding also in and around the park.

Weather that time of year is about mid 90, which to locals is very hot! I laughed when the park ranger thought I was crazy to make reservations for mid August.

DuneGuide.com is an excellent rresource for Coral Pink and many other riding areas, Have fun!

phx450 · Post by **phx450** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:36 am

Thanks for the info and the websites. I'll gladly take a 90 degree day of riding compared to a 116 degree day here in phoenix.

The sand dunes area is only 10 acres? Would it be better to run the knobbies and cruise the entire area?

Washroad · Post by **Washroad** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:20 am

phx450 wrote:Thanks for the info and the websites. I'll gladly take a 90 degree day of riding compared to a 116 degree day here in phoenix.

The sand dunes area is only 10 acres? Would it be better to run the knobbies and cruise the entire area?

Actually, the riding area is about 4,000 acres. It's not big, but the sand is so soft and fine that without paddles you won't go anywhere. Also, because of the softness of the sand, don't try to take off unless you are on level ground or pointed slightly downhill. I've been there twice and learned that much.

Jetting, well, the dunes are at 6,000 feet so you will need to downsize jets a bit, but, since it's also hot up there in the summer (we had 100 degree days there in August), don't go down too much as your motor will work very hard to ride there.

We rode from south to north and back again and also rode the trails along the edges of the dunes. The trails are 1-way and marked so you can go without worrying about heading-on with anyone.

I've only stayed at the state campground. The advantage of this are restrooms and showers. If you're self-contained you don't need to worry about that. The state campground is also very quiet, cell phones do not work at all. Campfires are in the fire-rings only. The campground is also 1-way. Don't get off the pavement in the campground until you get to the entrance to the dunes.

There is a dump station/water at the entrance to the campground.

It's an absolutely beautiful place!!!!

BakerKlan · Post by **BakerKlan** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:14 pm

okay okay so my math is skewed...

But Washroad brough up some very excellent points

Washroad · Post by **Washroad** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:07 pm

BakerKlan wrote:okay okay so my math is skewed...

But Washroad brough up some very excellent points

No, your acres are just bigger than mine!!

RichB · Post by **RichB** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:09 pm

Go back and read through the old posts, lots of info to read.

There are pluses and minus' in regard to the dry lake/meadows or staying at the State Park CG.

What I have really been upset about the last season or 2 is the dry lake area more often than not is mobbed with campers .....sardined in is an understatement some weekends. Also there's been a tremendous uptick in the amount of people that ride/let their kids pit ride in that hardpack lakebed. The dust it kicks up is absolutely horrible, no comparison to anywhere else. It is BRUTAL, heavy/thick and 100% unnecessary which makes it even worse. It's been so bad on a couple occasions we had to leave.

Ross & Alice · Post by **Ross & Alice** » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:51 pm

RichB wrote:Go back and read through the old posts, lots of info to read.

There are pluses and minus' in regard to the dry lake/meadows or staying at the State Park CG.

What I have really been upset about the last season or 2 is the dry lake area more often than not is mobbed with campers .....sardined in is an understatement some weekends. Also there's been a tremendous uptick in the amount of people that ride/let their kids pit ride in that hardpack lakebed. The dust it kicks up is absolutely horrible, no comparison to anywhere else. It is BRUTAL, heavy/thick and 100% unnecessary which makes it even worse. It's been so bad on a couple occasions we had to leave.

Didn't they institute a directional riding plan?
One way trails and dunes?

RichB · Post by **RichB** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:09 pm

There is 1 trail that is down at the base of the canyon wall that is the absolute COOLEST worm-trail ever. I goes for miles. That trail is one-way (and should be).

The dunes complex is open for riding in any direction.

Post by **Woodglue** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:56 pm

Here's a Newbie Question of Coral Pink:
I see that Utah OHV Rules prohibit children under the age of 8 from operating an OHV.... but is riding double legal there [i.e. me and my son on my quad]?
I checked with the Utah State Parks website, but it seems their site is no longer in operation. Click here

Grumpy Wookiee · Post by **Grumpy Wookiee** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:56 pm

Yeah, Mike, that link has been down for some time now. I dont know why either.

However, you can get on to some of the other spots on thier BLM website.

Here is another site for Coral Pinks.

To answer your question,

Utah BLM wrote:Activity Overview
Review the following concepts with the students before starting the activities.
Trail Safety
a. Do not carry passengers. OHVs are designed for only one person. Riding with more than one person per OHV is unsafe.

I found that in their saftey manual, chapter four, section 1, page 29.

Here is the link to their manual.

alyshka · Post by **alyshka** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:43 pm

try this

http://stateparks.utah.gov/ohv/safety-rules-ethics.html

and

http://www.utahoutdooractivities.com/sandhollowatv.html

Post by **Woodglue** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:49 am

Grumpy Wookiee wrote:Here is another site for Coral Pinks.

To answer your question,
Utah BLM wrote:Activity Overview
Review the following concepts with the students before starting the activities.
Trail Safety
a. Do not carry passengers. OHVs are designed for only one person. Riding with more than one person per OHV is unsafe.

Ah, yes, but this is a Social Studies tutorial for students grades 3 ~ 7.
I know it can be unsafe but I know that I wouldn't be unsafe. It can be unsafe in Arizona, but it's legal there.

I've looked all over now, in these various links, and find no rules or laws against riding doubles. Which leads me to assume that there are no laws / rules against it. But are there?

Worse, I find here that Nonresident OHV User Permits are required.

any nonresident owning an off-highway vehicle... shall pay an annual off-highway vehicle user fee.

but it goes on to say:

Off-highway vehicles currently registered in a state offering reciprocal operating privileges to utah residents shall be exempt from the nonresident user fee requirements of this rule.

but I can't find this list of states with reciprocal operating privileges to utah residents.

Maybe I just suk at this internet research stuff.

Either way, Oregon Dunes are looking better and better all the time.

Post by **Woodglue** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:58 am

I just called Off Highway Vehicle (OHV) [1-800-OHV-RIDE OR 801-538-7433] and they confirmed that there are no laws or rules in Utah against riding doubles.
Further, they confirmed that California has reciprocal operating privileges, so Non-Resident OHV Registration is not required.

$\:D/$

Grumpy Wookiee · Post by **Grumpy Wookiee** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:31 pm

Yeah, I was going to tell you that California and Colorado are two states that fit into that category.

Woodglue wrote:Ah, yes, but this is a Social Studies tutorial for students grades 3 ~ 7

LMAO!!!

Sorry, it was all I could find.

Astro · Post by **Astro** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:06 pm

Does AZ's new OHV sticker fit into the reciprocal agreement now

Now that the youngest Dune Rat in the Family is 9 maybe we'll check it out this summer when Glamis is too HOT

Astro

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